I'm about to take the leap and get rid of my old speedtouch 330 and set up a wireless network based on a Netgear DG834G. I have a wanadoo broadband account.
I'm not a teckie and I hear that Orange won't help on 3rd party hardware. Any advice on set up would be appreciated.
One probably stupid question is do I need a phone number to make the new connection through the router ? There's only a 0 showing in the 'number box' under connection properties
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Connect the router to ur pc open a browser and type in the address bar 192.168.0.1 a window will pop up then type in a "admin" then "password" ( you can change the password later) when your in use the smart wizard to detect your ISP's settings then all you have to do is enter your ADSL username and password.
Go to This link there you will see how to get the wireless configuration.
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You won't need a phone number at all. Thats just because windows uses USB modems like a dialup connection most of the time so requires a number, also some modems use the number to pass additional connection data to the modem.
As Steve said it should be pretty easy, most routers over here have the default settings needed for ADSL broadband as very few providers use non-standard ones.
Just go to basic settings and add your login info, simple as that really.
If you use the wireless part of it don't forget to use a WEP key and disable broadcast of your SSID after you get it set up otherwise you'll be open to anyone who wants to use your BB connection.
I've had my one for more than 3 years now, they are good bits of kit.
I'd recommend WPA or WPA2 anytime you get the option over WEP.
As for SSID broadcasting, turning it off will only diswade the most basic of wireless hackers. It's not a "security" feature. Think of it like a "Warning my dog bites!" sticker on your front door.
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welwynbee wrote:
Thanks for this Steve - really helpful, looks easier than I thought and the link is also a help.
I'll be back if pear shapes arise !
Martin
(Before you secure your network get your wireless connection up and running first.)
With the DG834 you will have 2 WPA's choose the WPA-PSK option, and on your pc choose the same it should automatically choose TKIP data encription.
As for the SSID personally i hide mine as i can see at least 8 other networks in my range, make sure you rename your SSID and dont leave it at the default which will be NETGEAR.
Its important to turn the wireless access point on which you get to on the wireless settings page, once you have set your security up go to that setting to allow your wireless pc to access your router you will see the pc/adaptors MAC address waiting to be added to allow connection.
Good Luck
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In my opinion USB modems are pants. All the bundled software you end up with when you install the drivers do my head in!
One tip for setting up wireless:
I like to set up the "Access control" feature. Basically you input the MAC addresses of computers you want to allow to connect to your wireless network. So even if anyone did manage to crack your encrypytion they won't be able to connect to your network (I'm sure there probably is a way, but it will NOT be easy). The setting is in the "Wireless settings". There's a button halfway down the page labelled "Setup Access List".
The other advantage of wrongmark's suggestion is that all computers on the network will always have the same IP address - this is useful for print sharing I believe
Also on my Netgear, I lock down the IP range of the start and end range to match the number of PC's I use on the LAN IP Setup page. Also on this page, I change from using the default 192.168 address
Other reasons why USB modems are pants is the fact that you're directly exposed to the internet. At least with a router you also have a hardware firewall protecting inbound connections too
MAC filtering helps but it's not "security" as such, anyone serious about hacking into a wifi network would likely sniff valid MAC's to use later to spoof. BTW MAC filtering isn't always linked to DHCP reservation, some routers seperate the two features out.
For wireless there's really only 1 real securtiy measure and that's the encryption most of the other features are just minor hinderances that catch out those who don't know what they're doing.
Okay, following on from this I have a question: I want to buy a Netgear wireless adsl modem to replace my USB Speedtouch, so I can connect wirelessly on my new laptop and also use my PS3 online. I have the free 2MB package.
Am I supposed to install Orange on my laptop first using the original CD, but instead of plugging in the Speedtouch u plug in the Netgear instead during the installation process? Or do you do it differently? I tried talking to Orange support but they were totally useless.
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You dont need any software at all if your gonna use a Netgear router my advice would be to uninstall any Orange software on any of your PC's once you have configured the router to how you like it and are happy with your connection then uninstall the Speedtouch modem software.
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Thanks stevelondon. My lappy currently has no Orange software on it. It's brand new and has never been used. So what you're saying is that I don't really need to install the Orange software anyway, I can just install the Netgear. I'm just confused as to how I'm supposed to get the laptop to recognise and dial into the Orange network if I don't install the Orange software. I've never used wireless before and I'm not a techie so it's a little confusing. Is it a case of: 1) Install Netgear, 2) laptop recognises wireless modem, 3) input Orange username and password, 4) job's a good 'un ?
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Plug your Netgear into the pc with the ethernet cable and the modem wire into the adsl filter etc once its booted up properly open a browser and type in 192.168.0.1 and type in admin and admin for the password then use the smart wizard it will detect Orange dsl settings then when its finished all u need to do is to put in ur Orange dsl username and password and click apply it should connect.
Then if u scroll up this page theres several posts in this thread on the wireless bit.
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