I upgraded from my old 1Mb service in October last year to the upto 8Mb service when my exchange was updated.
From day one of the upgrade I have had a max speed of 2Mb, which I believe is some form of capped LLU in the exchange. (I have been luckier than some posting on hear as I have not really suffered the slow speeds others have experienced).
One thing that has frustrated me is that neighbours are getting upto 6Mb speeds, (new house built 5 years ago and I assume same cables to exchange, which is under 1 mile away !).
Checking my Orange account today, as I've just had new bank card and needed to update payment details, I spotted a comment that said :-
"current speed 2Mb, can upgrade to 2.5Mb, cost zero".
Initial thoughts were do I or dont I ? knowing that others had experienced problems when changing speeds, especially as I am lucky and have a stable connection at 2Mb.
Then I spotted the next line :-
"upgrading your speed commits you to a further 12 month contract"
I know the package I am on is supposed to give free speed upgrades, but committing to another 12 months, is this correct ?
I seem to remember that when I signed up to the package, (which is the old upto 8Mb service, before the unlimited one was launched), that it stated that if you could not get 8Mb, they would give you the fastest service available and automatically upgrade your speed whenever your exhange was updated, upto 8Mb.
Because my package is no longer offered, I can not find the T&C's on their web site to check if I am correct.
I'd be interested in other peoples views and whether anybody else has experienced the same.
One thing that has frustrated me is that neighbours are getting upto 6Mb speeds, (new house built 5 years ago and I assume same cables to exchange, which is under 1 mile away !).
You'd hope so but where your cable actually goes could be very different.
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"current speed 2Mb, can upgrade to 2.5Mb, cost zero".
Slightly odd. If you were on LLU it should have put you on that speed originally, but if you were on IPStream then that would be an upgrade onto ADSL Max. Best thing to do would be try and run a speedtest on:
http://speedtester.BT.com/
If it lets you run a speedtest then you're not on an LLU line and the upgrade will be to ADSL Max.
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Initial thoughts were do I or dont I ? knowing that others had experienced problems when changing speeds, especially as I am lucky and have a stable connection at 2Mb.
There is always a risk when changing speed up that it can cause problems.
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Then I spotted the next line :-
"upgrading your speed commits you to a further 12 month contract"
I know the package I am on is supposed to give free speed upgrades, but committing to another 12 months, is this correct ?
I seem to remember that when I signed up to the package, (which is the old upto 8Mb service, before the unlimited one was launched), that it stated that if you could not get 8Mb, they would give you the fastest service available and automatically upgrade your speed whenever your exhange was updated, upto 8Mb.
This one's a bit sketchy. They did promose that last year when that package was out when speed upgrades on request cost a £20 fee. Now upgrades are usually done on package changes and apply a new contract. Basically if you request it then it'll put you into a new contract and I just don't know if they are still doing the speed upgrades for free as stated back then.
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Because my package is no longer offered, I can not find the T&C's on their web site to check if I am correct.
You are on the newer current T&C's. Everyone was contacted over it when the changes went through, failure to decline the changes and therefore cancel means you have accepted them. It's been so long that you have no chance of disputing that if you didn't get the message, think it was around last Novemember/December time it happened, though there were a couple of changes to them last year.
On a side note you may want to post your livebox/router/modem line stats so we can then see what sort of speeds your line may be able to actually get. Sometimes the estimates can be wrong and you'd may be able to get 6meg like your neighbour after all.
I would STRONGLY recommend not getting tied into a further 12 month contract with these jokers.
Things usally get worse and they do alsorts to trick people into extending contracts then not providing a service, disconnections etc.
See the many posts on this site for people who have been tricked the same.
If you move to a real ISP then you will get your potential top speed with broadband, this very rarely happens with Orange.
You're lucky to have a working connection really.
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Elhana wrote:
jw wrote:
One thing that has frustrated me is that neighbours are getting upto 6Mb speeds, (new house built 5 years ago and I assume same cables to exchange, which is under 1 mile away !).
You'd hope so but where your cable actually goes could be very different.
--Rubbish, the cables WILL be the same and WILL go to the same exhange.
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"current speed 2Mb, can upgrade to 2.5Mb, cost zero".
Slightly odd. If you were on LLU it should have put you on that speed originally, but if you were on IPStream then that would be an upgrade onto ADSL Max. Best thing to do would be try and run a speedtest on:
http://speedtester.BT.com/
If it lets you run a speedtest then you're not on an LLU line and the upgrade will be to ADSL Max.
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Initial thoughts were do I or dont I ? knowing that others had experienced problems when changing speeds, especially as I am lucky and have a stable connection at 2Mb.
There is always a risk when changing speed up that it can cause problems....NO NO NO, the risk is not the upgrading the speed....the risk is Orange! they are incompitent, i would not trust the indian monkeys to increase the temperature on an oven
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Then I spotted the next line :-
"upgrading your speed commits you to a further 12 month contract"
I know the package I am on is supposed to give free speed upgrades, but committing to another 12 months, is this correct ?
I seem to remember that when I signed up to the package, (which is the old upto 8Mb service, before the unlimited one was launched), that it stated that if you could not get 8Mb, they would give you the fastest service available and automatically upgrade your speed whenever your exhange was updated, upto 8Mb.
This one's a bit sketchy. They did promose that last year when that package was out when speed upgrades on request cost a £20 fee. Now upgrades are usually done on package changes and apply a new contract. Basically if you request it then it'll put you into a new contract and I just don't know if they are still doing the speed upgrades for free as stated back then.
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Because my package is no longer offered, I can not find the T&C's on their web site to check if I am correct.
You are on the newer current T&C's. Everyone was contacted over it when the changes went through, failure to decline the changes and therefore cancel means you have accepted them. It's been so long that you have no chance of disputing that if you didn't get the message, think it was around last Novemember/December time it happened, though there were a couple of changes to them last year.
On a side note you may want to post your livebox/router/modem line stats so we can then see what sort of speeds your line may be able to actually get. Sometimes the estimates can be wrong and you'd may be able to get 6meg like your neighbour after all.
Leave Orange they are useless gits - they dont know their heads from theior arses let alone their Cat5's from their LLU's
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--Rubbish, the cables WILL be the same and WILL go to the same exhange.
In an ideal world yes but it's not the case in real life especially with BT's network. It's been added to, patched, expanded, new exchanges built, new technologies tried, capacity increased massively. You'd hope the cables go the same route but it cannot be guaranteed.
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There is always a risk when changing speed up that it can cause problems
....NO NO NO, the risk is not the upgrading the speed....the risk is Orange! they are incompitent, i would not trust the indian monkeys to increase the temperature on an oven
Changing the signal down a line always carries a risk, usually any allowed upgrade should be ok but if real life was like that all ISP's would be a lot happier with less problems.
The only time it is down to Orange directly is with LLU connections as any sync issues on IPStream connections are prior to any Orange equipment or involvement in the physical connection.
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