Hi, I’m on the broadband unlimited service, up to 8mb, and am currently getting about a 2mb connection, here are my stats:
Connection mode : G.DMT
Type : Fast
Noise margin (dB) : 6.5
Attenuation (dB) : 63.0
Attainable download rate (kbps) : 2496
ADSL status : Connected [0]
Downstream
2464
Upstream
448
From what I’ve read, my slow speed is my high Attenuation? Caused by the distance from my exchange (Peartree, 2.7km). I currently am on ADSL Max, up until recently I was on the normal adsl service getting a 512kbs connection. My question is how will I get a higher speed in the future? I don’t know anything about LLU but would that provide a higher speed should it, at some point be implemented at my exchange? Or is there anything above adsl max that would provide a higher speed?
Otherwise is my only option for higher speeds in the future, aside from moving house, to move to NTL?
Thank you in advance for any information you could provide.
Well the only other possible speed increase you'll see anytime soon is with ADSL2+. Sky, BE and a couple of others use this but for now it's LLU only and you're not likely to get a whole lot of extra speed from that. Again it's due to the length of your line.
Orange will do ADSL 2+ too but not anytime soon AFAIK, it'll also be LLU only until BT go and upgrade the whole network to it which will take quite sometime.
After that it's when/if they do fibre to the street cabinets, shorter copper lines so you should be able to get almost top speed then.
NTL's cable should be able to provide a higher speed although they used to have quite a reputation for poor service etc.
There's a few other technologies coming along but really with this sort of stuff it's fairly slow going for them to be properly introduced, especially in lesser urban areas. Usually ends up being the lower the speed you can get right now the longer it'll take to get increased.
Well I have a couple of friends on NTL who are pretty happy with it, that and a recent customer satisfaction survey I saw showed practically all ADSL providers dropping while NTL stayed the same. Don't seem to hear about them so much these days so they must be doing something right.
This is an interesting topic, I was wondering about this the other day. I read recently that NTL are trialling 100mb in parts of the uk, and with them seeming to be able to offer practically limitless speeds due to their superior technology (fibre cables or whatever) what can BT etc actually do to catch up?
Surely this is a major concern for Orange, be, Sky, in fact any of the ISP’s who are renting BT lines. Cable could presumably blow them totally out of the water by bumping their customers up to 100mb and above while the BT equivalents would be stuck on 8mb, 16mb perhaps but of course depending largely on if you actually live next door to an exchange or not.
Would this not be a worry for Sky also, as in their TV service? If cable were to send TV via the internet, they could offer a truly interactive service while Sky remained on scheduled programming.
Is there anyway BT can catch up without replacing those old copper wires? Or is indeed the future looking very bright for NTL?
This is an interesting topic, I was wondering about this the other day. I read recently that NTL are trialling 100mb in parts of the uk, and with them seeming to be able to offer practically limitless speeds due to their superior technology (fibre cables or whatever) what can BT etc actually do to catch up?
Cable's hardly superior, right now you can only get 10 meg from cable and last I heard there was 20 meg coming through sometime soon, they've already completed the trials on that. 100 meg should be possible, it's just ethernet to the home really, though probably not all that soon.
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Surely this is a major concern for Orange, be, Sky, in fact any of the ISP’s who are renting BT lines. Cable could presumably blow them totally out of the water by bumping their customers up to 100mb and above while the BT equivalents would be stuck on 8mb, 16mb perhaps but of course depending largely on if you actually live next door to an exchange or not.
Well there are other DSL technologies being researched and tested, I'm sure I read of one recently being able to deliver something near 100meg in test conditions. Combine that with the fibre to the cabinet and the majority of people should be able to get pretty high speeds.
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Would this not be a worry for Sky also, as in their TV service? If cable were to send TV via the internet, they could offer a truly interactive service while Sky remained on scheduled programming.
Nah, Sky have loads of bandwidth to spare, there was a report just today mentioning them thinking of rolling out video on demand, once they work out what to do about the 50% of Sky+ boxes that can't use the service.
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Is there anyway BT can catch up without replacing those old copper wires? Or is indeed the future looking very bright for NTL?
It's not quite that simple, to catch up BT have 21CN rolling out over the next few years, that improves their back end network, then if they convert part of the network to fibre they'll be able to boost speeds dramatically. As for NTL they have their own problems, your network needs to be able to support people running on 20 or 100 meg before they can really upgrade to it. They have a lot of backend network upgrades to do and doubtless a lot of people will need new modems to get those speeds. Plus how many sites can you really download at 100meg from?
When that 21cn eventually does arrive in uk, speeds will only be upto 24mb, which by that time will be way behind ntl/telewest. I did read somewhere that in shoreditch they planning on doing a 2gb trial which will mean downloading all of wikipedia in 7 secs! By 2050 Orange will prob only just get upto 24mb lol
So 1gb to a capable modem/router and 1gb to the cable TV box then?
I remember france telecom saying a few months ago they were going to run a fibre trial in paris at something like 1gb connection.
Really though it's going to take sometime for these to come into effect as trials take time and upgrading everything for a new technology is a long and expensive process.
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