Connie wrote;
Well thankyou Orange for dumping the .freeserve.co.uk email that I have had for bloody years in space ..and have a hundred odd things registered with it.. important stuff.... software and domain names!
As it happens, this situation was happily resolved with the restoration of the relevant service but it does highlight the considerable inconvenience of losing a long-standing email address.
The quick answer is to purchase your own domain name which belongs to you and is totally independent of the Internet Service Provider-it is not lost if, for example, you take your business elsewhere.
These days, domain names are increadibly cheap - for example
www.123-reg.co.uk can provide a .com domain name for £8.99 (+VAT) per year and a .co.uk for just £2.59 (+VAT) per year.
This price includes domain name 'forwarding' which redirects any domain-based email to the destination of your choice (for example, your Orange email address).
If you decided to drop Orange, in this example, you would simply redirect the domain-based mail to the address provided by the new ISP and the change would be invisible to the outside world.
There are other facilities, such as web-forwarding, which are beyond the scope of this article.
If you grow tired of the domain name host (123-reg, in this example), you could also move your domain name hosting elsewhere with minimal disruption to your internet traffic.
I have experienced several Internet Service Providers whose service started-off well but deteriorated-Your own domain name allows you to change providers as often as you like but with minimal disruption.
Is forwarding your email to an Orange/wanadoo/freeserve POP3 box a good idea? I use 123-reg and did forward my email to my Orange account for a while, but was finding from senders that a lot of these were being bounced back as recepient unknown, so swithced these elsewhere
I still have an ntlworld dialup account (with a more reliable, but smaller capacity than Orange) but I was wondering if you'd used 123-reg's POP boxes too?
I think that the problem you describe was probably an issue with the Orange POP-3 server rather than Reg-123 or the principle of forwarding email.
Any email sent directly to a non-responsive POP-3 server would also bounce.
In using the forwarding technique for a number of years over several ISPs, I have only experienced the occasional problem of this nature which I did indeed solve by temporarily ceasing the forwarding and picking up my mail directly from the Reg-123 POP-3 mailboxes (which, incidentally, are additions to their basic domain name hosting service).
There are a number of domain name hosts (whose 'packages' do vary) and I only mention Reg-123 because they are the people I use for myself and have the most experience with.
In terms of recommending an appropriate strategy to non-technical people, I favour the email forwarding method because there is no fiddling about with settings on the recipient computer (So I can set it up myself, via the hosting web site, if needs be).
Another advantage is that you can forward mail from single addresses to multiple destinations and you can set up a 'catch-all' facility to deal with any domain-based addresses not specifically defined.
For example, you could forward copies to your Orange and NTL accounts though it might be neater to pick-up directly from the Reg-123 POP-3 mailboxes to avoid multiple copies on the same PC.
The main purpose of my post, however, was to point out that purchasing your own domain name will give you the facility to change your Internet Service Provider without losing a well-established email address which may be crucial to many internet-based services as well your direct contacts.
I suspect that a lot of people persevere with the problems described on this site because it is too much of a hassle to change.
The main purpose of my post, however, was to point out that purchasing your own domain name will give you the facility to change your Internet Service Provider without losing a well-established email address which may be crucial to many internet-based services as well your direct contacts.
I appreciate that. I signed up to a domain a while back when bigfoot started charging. I was just warning of the dangers of diverting that email back to an Orange POP3 box!
The main purpose of my post, however, was to point out that purchasing your own domain name will give you the facility to change your Internet Service Provider without losing a well-established email address which may be crucial to many internet-based services as well your direct contacts.
I appreciate that. I signed up to a domain a while back when bigfoot started charging. I was just warning of the dangers of diverting that email back to an Orange POP3 box!
I would not trust Orange with the diverted emails. Far more robust would be to forward from 123-reg to Google Mail. GM provides gigs and gigs of storage, and you can trust them not to go bust or delete the account. Then configure GM to instantly forward all messages to an account of your choice, that way they are backed up "forever" in one place. Also, GM are very quick at forwarding mail.
My prefered option is to register a domain at a reseller such as 123-reg and have a hosting account somewhere else. Hosting accounts provide hundreds of megs for web serving or email storage, plus you get nice IMAP control over the accounts and your own files. A friendly and helpful hosting company is fuzioned.com, there are many others of course.
Unfortunately I use a client called Turnpike (from my days with Demon, and I've just stuck with it) which doesn't support the secure thing gmail requires. There is a way to use something called stunnel, but I've not got round to working out how to do this
Talking of 123reg again, have you ever used their POP3 mailboxes for storing your email?
Unfortunately I use a client called Turnpike (from my days with Demon, and I've just stuck with it) which doesn't support the secure thing gmail requires. There is a way to use something called stunnel, but I've not got round to working out how to do this
Talking of 123reg again, have you ever used their POP3 mailboxes for storing your email?
123-Reg can supply both POP3 mailboxes and web space hosting - so really no need to get involved in complicated solutions with web space hosted in one place and the domain in another.
123-Reg don't, however, provide an outgoing mail server though I have it in mind that they briefly did so a while back.
I do occasionally pick up my mail directly from 123-Reg POP3 mailboxes if my ISP POP3 mail server is playing-up and have experienced no problems with doing this.
However, I generally prefer to set up the 'diversion' stategy for non-technical people as it can be managed without making any changes at the recipient computer-also, you can copy the emails to several recipients.
so really no need to get involved in complicated solutions with web space hosted in one place and the domain in another.
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I meant also to say that, in my opinion, a sensible strategy is to always download the mail onto your own computer as soon as possible.
Webmail type solutions always require you to be on-line while reading and generating emails which can be frustrating at times where the internet connection or ISP webmail server is disrupted for one reason or another.
Personally, I find webmail services a bit of a pain-in-the-neck and use them only as a last resort.
Leaving mail on the server always carries the risk of temporary unavailability or even permanent loss, whereas, on your computer, it is always under your control.
Also, mail can be lost if the allocated mailbox becomes full which is best avoided by downloading on a regular basis.
Also, mail can be lost if the allocated mailbox becomes full which is best avoided by downloading on a regular basis.
This was my main reason for bringing it up. With the number of yahoo groups my oh belongs to, some POP3 mailboxes get very close to their limit if we go away for a week, which is why rather than diverting them as I do at the minute, I'd like them to host the POP3 boxes (and setting the diverts to them)
I'd like them to host the POP3 boxes (and setting the diverts to them)
It sounds as though 123-Reg would suit you.
I get a number of POP3 mailboxes with my web hosting but, if you only wanted to host a domain with them, you could add one or more POP3 mailboxes for 83p per month each (I think that is actually billed annually)
You could then divert incoming email to your POP3 mailbox(es) or to external email addresses, as you wish.
The issue of mailbox size has never come up and I am not sure if there is such a limit though I would be inclined to give the sales or technical support people a call to check - can't immediately see any reference to mailbox size on the help system
There is also a free webmail system so you could access the mail online from a browser on any computer.
yes i searched their support site too and couldn't find the answer
I had an email from them in 2005 which said it was 50MB, which thinking about it, should be OK
I had an email from them in 2005 which said it was 50MB, which thinking about it, should be OK
Indeed - That is a huge amount of space for basic email messages (50,000 x 1000 character messages) which are just text and the only difficulty arises if people send you loads of large attachments.
If there were a limit which caused you problems, you could simply purchase more POP3 boxes and use variations on the domain-based email address to direct your mail to one or the other.
Best to find out exactly what the rules are though.
Unfortunately I use a client called Turnpike (from my days with Demon, and I've just stuck with it) which doesn't support the secure thing gmail requires. There is a way to use something called stunnel, but I've not got round to working out how to do this
Talking of 123reg again, have you ever used their POP3 mailboxes for storing your email?
I'm not talking about connecting to Google Mail from a mail client. In GM settings go to the 'Forwarding and POP' tab, select "Forward a copy of incoming mail to.." and enter whatever email address you want. There is also an option to keep a copy of the forwarded messages in the GM inbox.
I don't think 123-reg mail boxes support IMAP, and as mentioned they don't have an outgoing mail server. I used to host a site at 123-reg, but gave up because the tools they offer are pretty poor. I want a well confugured version of cPanel and good webmail such as Horde.
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